Category Archives: Tang Band W4

Bass reflex Tang Band W4 speakers

Several years ago, at the beginning of this blog I bough two TangBand W4 1320 four inch, full range speakers from Parts Express. I built some quarter wave horn cabinets to mount them in, described in a previous post. Later they turned in to a Boom Bench that didn´t really work out. Then they went into retirement in a bag full of  speaker damping materials and where forgotten for a few years.

13EM7 Amplifier Building the 6S45P amplifier part two

 

 

 

Then about three years ago they resurfaced and I thought I might as well use them for some small speakers.

I researched Applications of the Tang Band W4 and found a nice, simple recepie in the “Swift” by Emil Attid of the website Nth Audio. The plan calls for a 5.5 liter cabinet with a tuned port at 70Hz. Side dimensions 320mm H x 240mm W  and about 150mm wide – depending on material dimensions. Emil Attid provided measurement drawings, so it was a simple thing to cut up some 16mm birch ply I had available. The nice thing about this design is that you can rip 120mm wide strips of ply and then work out the lengths for the individual components afterwords. A straight forward build, with nice proportions.

I hope its ok, Emil, to repost your plan here.

I made one speaker, glued it up except for one side that I left open to work out what damping I liked. Once I had it sounding nice I put it on a shelf along with the rest of the materials and promptly forgot it for 3 years.

It is a problem that once my initial interest in a project is satisfied, I end up not following through with it. Sound familiar?  I am surrounded by these kinds of projects.

Then, a slow Friday at work I decided I needed to finish the thing. I cut up the strips of ply for the second cabinet and glued them up with white glue. In the intervening years I had used up the rest of the nice 16mm birch ply so this time I went for 17mm MDF for the sides of the speaker. They are going to be finished in paint so it does not really matter.

 

The Boom Bench har become BiB speakers again

I got tired of listening the Boom bench pretty quickly, and took a saw to it and cut it in half!
Pulled out the amplifier and turned the speakers back in a vertical position. Connected to the Audioromy FU13 the sound picture instantly found its place again. I guess I have found out the hard way why speakers are always vertical. I know I have read It so you don´t have to pester me with I told you so´s.
When the speakers are vertical the high frequencies which carry the positioning information, are diffracted in a horizontal pattern. That why!

 And this is the absolutely last time I will listen to a cheap transistor amp. They Are Boooring.

I have brought the Boom Bench home for some comparative listening. Actually its an uneven match between a Single ended Class A tube amp powering Magnepan SMGa with subwoofers and a 4 inch full range speaker in a TQWT cabinet powered by a lowly transistor amplifier pulled from from an old pair of computer speakers.
But it is the recording material and the speakers that make the most impact on music presentation. I remember the TQWT speakers as very clear and slightly forward speakers with beautiful rendition of female vocals in jazz when they where ordinary standing speakers powered by the MiniBlok. In this incarnation the wonderful sound stage is somewhat unfocused, probably due to diffraction in the vertical plane. The sound is flatter fatter and more suitable for electronic music. I attribute the changed sound to the cheap amp. It could be remedied with a good T-amp. While the imaging probably is an effect of the geometry. Although I would change the amp first to check.
Anyway, I am losing interest in the project and will probably going to sell it of for cost price, or get the saw and revert them to ordinary speakers.
But they are beautiful to look at, and would fit well in a livingroom with the television on top. The massive walls (30mm) are still slightly vibrating, but I doubt it will have any effect on hifi equipment stacked on top.
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Boom Bench

As I mentioned in a previous post. A TQWT speaker I developed for listening to the Miniblok amplifier has been transformed to a bench. The two speakers have been turned horizontally and in the gap between the speakers, in the middle, I built in a small amplifier taken from a set of computer speakers. The speaker cabinets were sandwiched between two MDF boards increasing their vibration damping. The whole thing was mounted on shortened IKEA table legs. A power switch and a mini jack are the only interfaces. Sound is controlled from a iPod.
Listening tests were successful. The Tang Band W4 Bamboo speakers I use are slightly bright, and listening a bit of axis is a good thing for them.
Dimensions of the individual speakers are: Thickness 16mm. Outside dim: Height 114cm, Width 18cm, Depth 26cm. Half depth to center line of the internal baffle is 13 cm and the same distance from the bottom.

And here is the initial Sketchup drawing with a cooler color and setting.
GenevaLab is in for some competition now!

13EM7 Amplifier

After much surfing I decided on Fred Nachbaur´s Miniblok SET amplifier for my first foray into amplifier building. Se Fred´s website for a detailed description of how it works and what it is good for.

I decided to build the prototype on a wooden box from IKEA. that way I could keep a clean and safe exterior, and I could turn the lid over so it was just as stable to work on upside down. I ordered most components from Parts Express and Parts connexion. Found power transformers in some cheap local battery chargers, and ordered 13EM7 tubes and Hammond 125 CSE output transformers from Norwegian supplier Motron. Then it was just a matter of soldering everything together.


This is the finished circuit. I have not cut wires and component leads down because I was planning to transplant the design into a double mono chassis if I was pleased with the sound. I did a couple of stupid things here, like running heater negative  on the ground bus, and getting the wires to the output transformers right in among the 235VAC, but actually it settled down after 5 or 10 hours of burn in and behaved well with no audible hum on the 89db/w fullrange BiB horns I built to play them on.
Here is a view of the first serious listening session.

This story continues with the 13EM7 dual mono

Update 21.october 2011: Here is the frequency response measurement of the 13EM7 playing through the Tangband W4 TQWT. Measurement is done through a Panasonic WM61 into Mac Pro with FuzzMeasure. the signal is sent to the amp through a M-Audio Fasttrack. The Tangband has Fs of 80Hz, the output transformers of the 13EM7 amp go down to 60Hz.